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Since one of my patristics friends guessed the name, I'll give you the top three (in order):

Perpetua (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06029a.htm)

Perpetua is our top choice, partly because we think it's pretty and mostly because we like the saint for whom she would be named. (Also, an irony - she was gored by a bull and so has been named the patron saint of cattle. An appropriate saint for a child born in Texas, eh?)

Constance come from the virtue, of course. And is pretty.

Ingrid is just, well, pretty. There is an Ingrid of Sweden, but we don't know anything about her yet. Our main hesitation about Ingrid is that it is just so very Scandanavian-sounding and we have no heritage of it on either side of the family.


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Apr. 24th, 2009 01:53 pm (UTC)
I think Perpetua is extremely interesting! I can see why some friends have shown hesitation, because it is strikingly uncommon, but when it comes to names, usually what makes them work is that you know an actual person with that name, and the name seems real because of that person. I could see it working.

Some reservations:
1. Is Perpetua *A LOT* of Ps combined with your last name?
2. The only Perpetua I can think of is a priggish character from Bridget Jones' Diary.
3. When I hear the word, I don't immediately think Latin and Catholicism; I tend to think 'New Age' first.
4. Would you call baby something for short? Like, I dunno, Pet or Tootie? Perp is out, 'ceptwise when she's being bad, hee. My mom had a good friend growing up who went by Tootie. I can't remember what it was short for...

Setting aside those concerns, why not? Although... have you considered any other fonts, like Verdana? Or Big Caslon?

I like Ingrid also and think it's been absorbed into the popular mindset enough that it doesn't have to be taken as too Scandinavian. Besides, what are people gonna do? Quiz you? How many Scandinavian ancestors would you have to have?

I'm not as fond of Constance as the other two, but the meaning is strong, and I think it would grow on me. It's just one of those names I hear and think 'Victorian moralizing.'

Thing is, none of that really matters once the kid is here and has the name, you know? Because then it's just the kid's name, and all your associations get turned on their heads anyway.
Apr. 24th, 2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
We've talked about the issue of multiple "P"s and come up with the following plan. We convince the Foleys to have another girl ASAP, and to name her Felicity. Then we'll have matching saints WITH matching tea-party names: Perpetua Pearson and Felicity Foley. Brilliant, no?

I don't remember that character from Bridget Jones' Diary. Is she in the movie? *heads to Google to try to remember*

I'm not sure what to say about the New Age concern, except that shouldn't be a problem in the circles we tend to run in. It might be an important consideration for when she's an adult filling out job applications - are potential employers going to think that she comes from a crazy, hippy, New Agey household?

Given that Samuel is still Samuel, I suspect we'll call her Perpetua. However, I have read that Peppi is the standard pet name for Perpetua. I kind of like it.

I guess my concern with Ingrid isn't so much the lack of Scandanavian ancestors, as how likely it is that she is going to look oh so completely un-Scandanavian, you know? If Samuel is any hint, she's going to be olive-skinned, brown-eyed, and brunette. Is that appropriate for an Ingrid?
Apr. 27th, 2009 07:16 am (UTC)
re: the concern about "Ingrid" - while working at the adoption agency, I learned that Ingrid is a popular name in Central American cultures. Many of the Guatemalan girls I placed were named "Ingrid," and they certainly did not look Scandinavian.
Apr. 27th, 2009 02:20 pm (UTC)
That's really interesting. Any idea how Ingrid became so popular there?

Sorry I wasn't able to get you called back yesterday. I had the cleaning bug and Samuel had just gone to sleep (I actually missed your call because I was putting him down), so I figured that I had better indulge it. I've found that the desire and opportunity to clean coincide so rarely that when they do, that I have to immediately jump into it regardless of anything else! :) Are you going to be free and at home tonight?
Apr. 28th, 2009 02:35 am (UTC)
I don't know why Ingrid is so popular there. When I have time, I'll do a little research to see if I can find out. I've always been curious about that.

I am home tonight if you're free to talk, although I realize it's already pretty late there. I won't be home tomorrow night or Wednesday night, but should be home on Thursday and Sunday.
Apr. 24th, 2009 05:24 pm (UTC)
I love that name! I think, though it is still not common, it would not be entirely out of place in Europe. or at least England. it's not like I've never heard the name before, at least.

and omg, Peppi is a TOTALLY ADORABLE nickname.

Perpetua Pearson has a nice sound to it and I don't think there are too many Ps.

I like Constance, too. just as long as you know that everyone will call her Connie.

Ingrid is a lovely name, but that might be my Swede side talking ;) I don't think you'd have to worry about people saying, "why would you name your child a Scandinavian name when you aren't Scandinavian???" people name their kids things from all sorts of different cultures nowadays.

(if you're taking votes, I want to vote three times for Perpetua)
Apr. 24th, 2009 06:23 pm (UTC)
Hurray! Thanks. All this encourage for Perpetua is helping. Lewis and I far prefer it, but were getting a bit discouraged by all the hesitancy.
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